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		<title>By: Malvani People</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real Marathi, real hindi, real indian, just words, Unfortunately most of us fall it. The REAL GAME is only about the power.</description>
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		<title>By: Public censor- Moral Policing -II &#124; Sanjeev Kotnala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Public censor- Moral Policing -II &#124; Sanjeev Kotnala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Maharashtra and the financial capital of the country. But do we disrespect it if we utter the name Bombay or Mumbai , most likely not. It’s just that the name Mumbai might not have totally got entrenched in our [...]</description>
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		<title>By: axxymax</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Punjab give up using Gurumukhi script for the ease of outsiders staying in cities of Punjab? Will Bengal discard Bengali language for the convenience of outsiders in Kolkatta?
Will you prefer calling Calcutta instead of Kolkatta or Madras for Chennai? And will government of Tamilnadu and Bengal permit you using Madras and Calcutta?
As per report of Government of Maharashtra there are only 27% Marathis left in Mumbai and 66% marathis in Entire Maharashtra. No other state of India has more than 25% outsiders. This proves that Maharashtra has already done a lot for people of other states. However it seems that Marathi language is vanishing from Mumbai and no North Indian will help to prevent it from vanishing.
I don&#039;t support violence made by MNS. But why learning Marathi becomes a problem for North Indians? Why should Maharashtrians only change their language while communicating with outsiders? if a person wants to be a minister of the state he has been in the state for 15 years and says i do not understand the local language isnt that a slap on the face of the indeginious ppl..  can agra and up be different. can a sardar and his turban (its his identity)be different. how can you just disect mumbai frm maharashtra.. people have shed blood for keeping mumbai as an integral part of maharashtra.. if not maharashtra mumbai would have been integrated with gujrat.. and gujrathi would have been its official state language and you wouldnt have a problem accepting it.. as a maharastrian and  a person with more than five generation in mumbai.... i miss the place i was born and bought up in i miss the security and the warm feeling i had in the society 20 years back.. i miss the parsi community and the irani chai.. mumbai has welcomed every one with open arms.. i do agree ppl have enriched mumbai in there own way.. but now i see the situation changing.. i see the change of attitude of the ppl migrating to mumbai,,,   every one in this country thinks mumbai as a money minting place, where in you come rake in  as much as you can and then just get the hell out of this place.. i do not see mumbai nourishing or flourishing.. yes there are malls .. and other places of recreation and the sky scrappers but where is the soul... mumbai has lost its soul its character its identity..as i see mumbai is the showcase of maharashtra..and the maharastrian culture.. tell me what you know about maharastrian culture ppl..even in the movies all the officers will be vermas sharmas all the sweepers cleaners domestic help will be gangu bai.the top ranking po;ice officer will be roy, gupta and some one else and the bribe taking havaldar will be a marathi name..depecting maharastrian in a badlight has been the order of the day...and yes other states can have swimming pools...waterparks.. every thing.. here we have to face water cuts, penalty for wasting water,provide free homes for the homeless from other states..watch ppl defecate in open..building illegal stalls. starting up shops whereever they feel .developing slums whereever they want. corporators supporting them just for votes.. crime is on a rise..victims of terrorism though none of our fault.victims of political rallies for some problems in different states .traffic situation is a mess..marathi  manoos has been walked over has been pushed to the edge and cornered.. and now the marathi manoos has snapped. I have never liked the way the situation handled by raj thackrey but i am running out of ideas of communicating with you ppl, my fellow countrymen and its sad very sad. what you see today is just the tip of the iceburg. its just the pent up anger as maharashtrian being treated as second class citizen of their own state and today we say enough is enough... follow our ways or get lost..nothing can stop us and even if god tries to stop us he will be cut in two...jai shivaji jai maharashtra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Punjab give up using Gurumukhi script for the ease of outsiders staying in cities of Punjab? Will Bengal discard Bengali language for the convenience of outsiders in Kolkatta?<br />
Will you prefer calling Calcutta instead of Kolkatta or Madras for Chennai? And will government of Tamilnadu and Bengal permit you using Madras and Calcutta?<br />
As per report of Government of Maharashtra there are only 27% Marathis left in Mumbai and 66% marathis in Entire Maharashtra. No other state of India has more than 25% outsiders. This proves that Maharashtra has already done a lot for people of other states. However it seems that Marathi language is vanishing from Mumbai and no North Indian will help to prevent it from vanishing.<br />
I don&#8217;t support violence made by MNS. But why learning Marathi becomes a problem for North Indians? Why should Maharashtrians only change their language while communicating with outsiders? if a person wants to be a minister of the state he has been in the state for 15 years and says i do not understand the local language isnt that a slap on the face of the indeginious ppl..  can agra and up be different. can a sardar and his turban (its his identity)be different. how can you just disect mumbai frm maharashtra.. people have shed blood for keeping mumbai as an integral part of maharashtra.. if not maharashtra mumbai would have been integrated with gujrat.. and gujrathi would have been its official state language and you wouldnt have a problem accepting it.. as a maharastrian and  a person with more than five generation in mumbai&#8230;. i miss the place i was born and bought up in i miss the security and the warm feeling i had in the society 20 years back.. i miss the parsi community and the irani chai.. mumbai has welcomed every one with open arms.. i do agree ppl have enriched mumbai in there own way.. but now i see the situation changing.. i see the change of attitude of the ppl migrating to mumbai,,,   every one in this country thinks mumbai as a money minting place, where in you come rake in  as much as you can and then just get the hell out of this place.. i do not see mumbai nourishing or flourishing.. yes there are malls .. and other places of recreation and the sky scrappers but where is the soul&#8230; mumbai has lost its soul its character its identity..as i see mumbai is the showcase of maharashtra..and the maharastrian culture.. tell me what you know about maharastrian culture ppl..even in the movies all the officers will be vermas sharmas all the sweepers cleaners domestic help will be gangu bai.the top ranking po;ice officer will be roy, gupta and some one else and the bribe taking havaldar will be a marathi name..depecting maharastrian in a badlight has been the order of the day&#8230;and yes other states can have swimming pools&#8230;waterparks.. every thing.. here we have to face water cuts, penalty for wasting water,provide free homes for the homeless from other states..watch ppl defecate in open..building illegal stalls. starting up shops whereever they feel .developing slums whereever they want. corporators supporting them just for votes.. crime is on a rise..victims of terrorism though none of our fault.victims of political rallies for some problems in different states .traffic situation is a mess..marathi  manoos has been walked over has been pushed to the edge and cornered.. and now the marathi manoos has snapped. I have never liked the way the situation handled by raj thackrey but i am running out of ideas of communicating with you ppl, my fellow countrymen and its sad very sad. what you see today is just the tip of the iceburg. its just the pent up anger as maharashtrian being treated as second class citizen of their own state and today we say enough is enough&#8230; follow our ways or get lost..nothing can stop us and even if god tries to stop us he will be cut in two&#8230;jai shivaji jai maharashtra.</p>
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		<title>By: A Reader</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Came across your blog via Google. Just wanted to give my 0.02. The Marathi population (and for that matter all other communities) never had to face free markets before today, so there was no real need to be assertive about language, roots etc. Mumbai is the first city in the country to be opened for free-markets. Clearly it has led to a deluge of immigrants (as &#039;controlled immigration&#039; is an anti-free-market ideology, not to mention impractical to implement in a country like India where each state is part of the Indian Union through political will, because together we are all stronger than each state by itself can be.). Now, because Mumbai today faces a &#039;tragedy of the commons&#039; i.e. slums, filth, etc have become a menace. To add to this, is the immigrant arrogance (in this case its North Indians, before this it were the South Indians), who question the very meaning of &#039;natives&#039; i.e. they say, who says Marathi people were the &#039;original residents&#039; of the geographical area called Mumbai today ? My only question is, can they accept the same argument about their home states ? I think it is understood that whenever a person A moves to a State B, he/she is initially in &quot;Guest mode&quot; and within some years (say 5/10) becomes a &quot;resident&quot;, after which he/she is expected to follow local language to better his/her business/friendships. If people deliberately refuse, then in a society like Mumbai (facing tragedy of the commons), the only solution is political, just as Raj Thakare is doing. You should indeed feel that you are being discourteous/rude if you are living in Mumbai, yet refuse to speak in Marathi after substantial number of years. You are not a &quot;traitor&quot; just that you are not being sensitive to the culture that nurtured you. Today people want to wipe out the local culture, and that is unacceptable to the Marathi population. if it comes down to physical fights, so be it. However, it is just rude to walk into someone&#039;s house and refuse to follow their rules about living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Came across your blog via Google. Just wanted to give my 0.02. The Marathi population (and for that matter all other communities) never had to face free markets before today, so there was no real need to be assertive about language, roots etc. Mumbai is the first city in the country to be opened for free-markets. Clearly it has led to a deluge of immigrants (as &#8216;controlled immigration&#8217; is an anti-free-market ideology, not to mention impractical to implement in a country like India where each state is part of the Indian Union through political will, because together we are all stronger than each state by itself can be.). Now, because Mumbai today faces a &#8216;tragedy of the commons&#8217; i.e. slums, filth, etc have become a menace. To add to this, is the immigrant arrogance (in this case its North Indians, before this it were the South Indians), who question the very meaning of &#8216;natives&#8217; i.e. they say, who says Marathi people were the &#8216;original residents&#8217; of the geographical area called Mumbai today ? My only question is, can they accept the same argument about their home states ? I think it is understood that whenever a person A moves to a State B, he/she is initially in &#8220;Guest mode&#8221; and within some years (say 5/10) becomes a &#8220;resident&#8221;, after which he/she is expected to follow local language to better his/her business/friendships. If people deliberately refuse, then in a society like Mumbai (facing tragedy of the commons), the only solution is political, just as Raj Thakare is doing. You should indeed feel that you are being discourteous/rude if you are living in Mumbai, yet refuse to speak in Marathi after substantial number of years. You are not a &#8220;traitor&#8221; just that you are not being sensitive to the culture that nurtured you. Today people want to wipe out the local culture, and that is unacceptable to the Marathi population. if it comes down to physical fights, so be it. However, it is just rude to walk into someone&#8217;s house and refuse to follow their rules about living.</p>
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